Twenty or so years ago - this was the route I took back to Bethesda - we started the 14 peaks at 04:30 but because of poor discipline and foul weather and poor visibility it was close to midnight before we started our descent. This was in the days before mobile phones - I wonder what our support crew were thinking? The third party that set out from the A5 to climb Pen-Yr-Olwen ended up spending the night in the refuge on Foel Grach.